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Why does everybody well mostly everybody want to go to LGB? What’s the point of a community if we exclude people. It’s LGBTQ+ for a reason to include every single sexuality/gender identity. Why change it if that’s excluding people. It doesn’t seem fair or even equal at all. A article I skimmed read was talking about getting rid of the T & Q and go back to LGB which is honestly lame. LGBTQ+ is for everybody who identifies as something that’s what matters for people to feel accepted and belong and not feel alone and not have a community.
I’m sorry for my rant I’m in a bit of a complaining mood and wanted to talk about this and hear peoples thoughts.Nov 18, 2023
I’m sorry for my rant I’m in a bit of a complaining mood and wanted to talk about this and hear peoples thoughts.Nov 18, 2023
#question
#lgbtq
#rant
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According to Amir Odom (a gay conservative), LGB is biology, while the TQ is identification, but there's no reason for it to be divided. For me, personally, as a genderfluid, I don't affiliate with the LGBT community because there has been internal homophobia towards gay men and transphobia towards trans people.
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•Pretty sure it's a small (but loud) and dumb minority who wants that
All the LGBT people (the only people relevant in such a debate) I know are inclusive of trans/queer/etc people fortunately
(I would beat their ass if they were not)
But as people have already said above, it's probably people who want to make queer people more palatable to cishet by removing trans/non-binary people from the community (which will not work and will eventually backfire on "lgb" people too)
All the LGBT people (the only people relevant in such a debate) I know are inclusive of trans/queer/etc people fortunately
(I would beat their ass if they were not)
But as people have already said above, it's probably people who want to make queer people more palatable to cishet by removing trans/non-binary people from the community (which will not work and will eventually backfire on "lgb" people too)
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•Because in my honest personal opinion they've never heard the phrase 'divide and conquer.'
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•I haven’t heard anything about that, but that’s ridiculous. Why break apart this community we’ve worked so hard to build?? I feel like that sends such a bad message, if the community itself is the reason it breaks apart instead of other people outside of it…
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•Lgb supporters hope to be accepted more by queerphobes by discriminating the same people they discriminate. It's stupid because authorising discrimination against Tq+ now, they authorise discrimination against them lgb later. Also, queerphobes (I mean hating the whole rainbow community) are the one discriminating in the first place, so the discriminated ones should stick together and support each other to stand stronger against discrimination, instead of further weakening themselves through internal discrimination (full blame to lgb supporters here, but more generally this is why need intersectionality and collaboration of minorities together for social rights)
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•LGB feels like it's splitting the rainbow in half. To include the red, orange, and yellow colors; and then throw away the rest of the colors, undermining the purpose of having LGBTQ+ in the first place. The rainbow symbol for the LGBTQ+ is meant to represent all sexuality/gender identity. Like you said, it suppose to help people feel comfortable and accepted who they are. 
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•because theyre cunts and think the right will protect thier sorry sad asses. excuse my french
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•It's an anti-gender influence tactic meant to divide the pride movement and let me tell you it's not working. 
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Any abbreviation of the labels without a plus at the end isn't inclusive. ️ The plus is important. The rainbow has all colours in it.
There is a tiny registered LGB organization in Finland that a few people created and it has failed to take a stand for any LGB issues. It is not helping lesbians, gays and so on in any way. It's simply an anti trans organization created as a performance to make it seem like trans rights and the existence of trans folks in general would be a thing that deeply divides opinions in the community. It's not.
This show is trying and failing to redefine some "neutral" stance that is anti trans. It's deliberately exclusive and divisive to hinder all
human rights improvements, not just trans rights.
Some political influencers who are in power ask hearings from these people when discussing new legislation. It's a performance.
These politicians who pretend to hear "both sides" have unanimously voted against all lgbtq+ human rights improvements in the past, like, against marriage equality (which we have now), and against improvement of legal gender recognition (which we also have now).
️ Any abbreviation of the labels without a plus at the end isn't inclusive. ️ The plus is important. The rainbow has all colours in it.There is a tiny registered LGB organization in Finland that a few people created and it has failed to take a stand for any LGB issues. It is not helping lesbians, gays and so on in any way. It's simply an anti trans organization created as a performance to make it seem like trans rights and the existence of trans folks in general would be a thing that deeply divides opinions in the community. It's not.
This show is trying and failing to redefine some "neutral" stance that is anti trans. It's deliberately exclusive and divisive to hinder all
human rights improvements, not just trans rights.Some political influencers who are in power ask hearings from these people when discussing new legislation. It's a performance.
These politicians who pretend to hear "both sides" have unanimously voted against all lgbtq+ human rights improvements in the past, like, against marriage equality (which we have now), and against improvement of legal gender recognition (which we also have now).
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•As nonbinary person, I also don't understand what is wrong with people and this whole just LGB thing
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