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How do you get yourself to study values? (from someone who loves using color)

I really need to understand values more, but i can't find any way to enjoy the study process cuz it's all in grayscale tvt

And how do you transition from grayscale(laying out all your values and shapes) to color? The 'coloring on top of grayscale' technique feels like coloring on glass
Sep 18, 2021
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I really need help with that too loll
I'm just getting started on learning how to make better colors pallettes, I'm just a little noob in color theory ╥﹏╥
It /might/ be more enjoyable to understand values better if you do something like "try redrawing this picture with only 3 values" or 2 or 4 etc. Framed Ink helped me understand values better by simplifying them. I agree with @supportivesins too, Andrew Loomis is a great source. I mostly use 2 methods to color: Alea_ner mentioned one- I go straight to color and keep a 0% saturation layer over everything that I can toggle on and off to check my values as I go. The other method I use is grayscaling, then selecting areas and colorizing using hue/saturation window, then painting over that to adjust colors/lights/darks manually. But even with that 2nd method, I keep the 0% sat layer over everything to check every once in a while.
Ayy as someone who sucks at values I get ya!

First of all as @alea_ner said you do not have to use greyscale specifically.
You can just paint in monochrome instead of greyscale sometimes.

I would really recommend checking out Andrew loomis’ creative illustration as it gives great info and exercises about value in composition. You can also look at exsisting images/movie screenshots/ etc that you enjoy seeing and break down their values so you get a little “library” of value compositions that you can reference from

Also if you mean digital art, people use greyscale and then use “color” blending option/bucket fill from what I know
Unfortunately I don't have any tips on making it more fun as I enjoy grayscale and sketch a lot 😝
And coloring on top of grayscale is a lot of layers (overlay, multiply, etc). Iirc Dave Greco did a nice tutorial on it 🤔
I grapple with the same life questions my friend 🥲
For me what happens is that I take a reference that I really really wanna draw cause when I like something I make compromises for it (that is study it cause I want to be satisfied with the end result).
And then I basically try to get the closest values with the mindset that ‘perfection is a flawed concept’.
I've seen someone use several layer modes to add color to add grayscale and that's how I thought it works
You don't need to use grayscale since not all colors with the same saturation have the same values. You can just paint in color and use a filter to turn it into grey scale and see the values and how they contrast, or do what traditional artists do and squint.
Sinix Designs and Marco Bucci probably have videos explaining this.
Bro I wish I could understand the coloring on grayscale better I’ve tried it before but I can’t get it to look decent